Some sandpaper for you

Why sandpaper? Well, it abrades and polishes depending on the grit. Dedicated to CTom, ARK, Zande, SOM, mike from books/ sklyd, and of course all others who appreciate evidence and facts.

Btw, you all can argue and complain with each other, so be careful of your alliances. Enjoy, and choose your sandpaper.

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Blending the colorful issues of life with the unapologetic truth of scripture, while adding some gracious ferocity.
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41 Responses to Some sandpaper for you

  1. Yayy! I appreciate people who take that word “firmament” seriously and ask good questions.

    Also, the sun is super hot, but space is super cold. We speak about the sun as if it were just a giant wood stove keeping us warm, but actually it isn’t like that at all. It has to find some molecules to excite in order to produce heat. The heat of the sun can pass right through the void of space and produce no heat at all. I just mention it because there is so much truth in the saying often attributed to Heisenberg, “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Firmament. One of my all time favorite words. Thank you msb. Of course I thought of you when ‘dedicating’ the short vid- for the most part all others think me nutso on this, but ask me if I care. lol

      Luv your last line too. Truly scripture is not a science book per se, but it never contradicts it either, naturally.

      Evidence. Facts. Reason. Scripture. Nature. Our senses. All tools thank God to be used correctly, without notion or bias.

      But truth be told, if we are honest and careful students, and if our hunger exceeds our prejudice- we will admit- we must admit – that there is more true science in scripture than all college deans can drum up. The ‘degrees’ of the sun, the demure light of the moon, animals and kinds, the genders, the waters above and below, the molten looking glass, ‘spread out like a tent,’ all verified through daily experience, thank God.

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  2. Ark says:

    Out of interest, what would happen if I boarded a 747 and flew due east from Johannesburg international? Would the plane eventually return to the departure point? Assuming we were able to refuel inflight of course.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      It would help to define terms.

      What does the word ‘plane’ mean? You know, like ‘planing’ an uneven board in carpentry. Seaplane. Airplane.

      2nd. The is only one non changing point on a compass. North. How will you plan your flight having this information?

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      • Ark says:

        Define a plane?
        I was specific. I wrote 747. Are you unfamiliar with this aircraft? Perhaps you know it as a Jumbo Jet?
        One has to fly in a generally easterly direction to (eventually) reach Australia. If the pilot continued in an easterly direction would he eventually return to his original point of departure: Johannesburg International

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Don’t pretend to be be dense. I know what you said ark. I am trying to get you to see that you need to define the word. WHY is it called a plane????

          Until you answer this correctly, it is pointless to continue. This is why foundations are important. Words mean things. And this is precisely WHY Degrasse and kind lose all arguments- as they refuse to admit the rules of engagement.

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        • Ark says:

          I am not dense pretending or otherwise!
          But to satisfy your pedantry I will define the term differently; ergo, a modern passenger jet aircraft, such as a Boeing 747.
          Now you have the term defined precisely you can answer the question.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          PLANE

          a flat surface on which a straight line joining any two points on it would wholly lie.
          “the horizontal plane”

          completely level or flat.
          “a plane surface”

          I’ve now given what you refuse to concede, as a noun and adj from a common distionary.

          I’ve also hinted that boats and aircraft traverse a ‘plane.’ Without this elementary understanding, and concession to reason, fact, common sense, it is pointless to speak of the travels of your 747- but rest assured, it is not traversing a basketball like an ant.

          I’ve given much more than your question deserves- The answer lies in North.

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        • Ark says:

          If I concede for the sake of argument that a 747 passenger aircraft travels in a general easterly direction along ‘a plane surface’ will the 747 eventually arrive at its point of departure( take-off), in this case Johannesburg International Airport?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          It’s been commonly known that circumnavigation occurs on sea, land, and air. Heck, the ISS has been doing it for years, moving in circles around a stable earth, complete with that dastardly fish eye lensing to deceive the simple-

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        • Ark says:

          It takes approx 42 hrs to circumnavigate planet earth in a fueled 747. So,once again, will the aircraft arrive at its point of departure,Jo’burg international,yes or no?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          How in God’s good name can we even discuss travel on our realm when we don’t even know where we live? You ASSUME, like most people, earth is a planet. Can’t hold that against you as that has long been taught and habit is a tough one to break.

          So to continue, you are asking me to admit this ‘planet,’ which sorry to say, I cannot. But first, where is the verifiable, observable, and actual proof that trains, aircraft, dolphins, are somehow guilty of gyrating through ‘space?’

          Do you not see the dilemma? Your question is the wrong one.

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        • Ark says:

          Obfuscation.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          I am actually surprised ark- the prolific photog that you are- Being aware of perspective/ vanishing points/ fish eye lensing/ distortion/ and your persistent call for ‘evidence-‘ surely you know how water behaves- so yeah, surprised that you do not readily agree with what your everyday experiences tell you/

          Personally, I would not dare to accuse mighty Everest of daily gyrations and immeasurable speeds/ so yeah, the table needs correctly set ere toy airship takes flight.

          (Landing on a moving target would pose quite the problem too)

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  3. Ark says:

    It is telling that when you delve into this idiotic flat earth diatribe even your most ardent fans sidestep the issue and are conspicuous by their abscence.
    Kudos to IB for at least making an appearance to show some moral ( sic) support.
    However,I’ll venture even she must be scratching her head at the level of weirdness on display when you take your metaphorical off-roader drive it off the edge of reality and go all caveman. Flat -earthers like you are a breed apart. Even Tom must be pulling his hair out at your idiotic dribblings.
    Smh.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      I agree insofar as many friends usually engage.
      It is a strange dilemma to be sure. Personally, I loathe the term ‘flat earth’ and do not use it. Others do to mock ball theory.

      However, why would NASA employ the services of Walt Disney to push ahem cough cough space travel. Cartoons can be most effective doncha know.

      I do have witnesses far more credible than lousy math by science comedians such as Nye and Degrasse, those high powered revered ‘space’ experts.

      And what / who are these witnesses?? Fact. Reason. Scripture.

      The automatic knee jerk reactions by many good people who swallow spinning ball theory is telling. I ask for proof. I get none. I ask you if YOU have seen the earth move personally, and your answer is no.

      People are fearful of being proven wrong. the same way you are afraid to admit that scripture is true and God’s word is good.

      Scripture is true, God is good, and earth is motionless and stable, just as any engineer would think a foundation needs to be steady ere the building rises.

      Unlike others, I hold no ill will for they who take a different view. But people change minds having proper info.

      But for you, here, now: God made the heavens AND the earth. But atheism needs the ‘ball’ to promote man’s irrelevance and junk science. Believers should pay attention to the odd alliance.

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      • Ark says:

        And this comment illustrates why even your staunchest supporters run for the hills….
        you are completely round the bend.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Yet you and others dare not comment on the strength of the vid’s main point regarding the making of glass- all around the world.

          I know precisely WHY many do not engage- and it actually has nothing to do with yours truly.

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        • Ark says:

          Almost every post you write is addressed in some back hand fashion toward atheists.
          I was named in person in this one so you can’t cry wolf when we turn up.
          Your Christian interlocutors don’t respond to your flat earth posts not because of the likes of John Z or me but for precisely the reason I mentioned.
          Such lunacy is even over the top for them.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ark
          I ‘dedicated’ the glass vid to all who have expressed disdain for opposition to the spinning ball we allegedly live on. Surely you must appreciate my fairness in including not only you, but Christian, and all others.

          I receive verbal abuse such as you bring, ( lunacy. Blah blah blah) yet you have not offered ONE fact against the points made. I ask for proof from you, Mike, Tom, etc, and all I get is ‘we know the earth spins….’ ‘we assume the earth spins….’ with NEVER one drop of evidence.

          As said earlier, atheism needs the spinning ball, and believers and all others should be so embarrassed to align with the lying science that is anti science and a lousy excuse for intellect.

          Your gripes move me not. Write your own post, as I’ve said to others. Prove the earth moves. Prove that lakes ‘bend.’ Prove it is a hallucination that Kansas and Florida are dead level, impossible if earth was a globe. Prove it by fact.

          Do it today. Earn an award. And yes, IB has more guts than every body else it appears.

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        • Ark says:

          IB does not pander to your idiotic flat earth garbage.
          Her and I have never seen eye to eye on anything pertaining to Christianity but I give her enough credit she is not an imbecile as you are in this regard

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Tkx for telling me what you know of the illustrious ib22.

          But note- comment after comment of yours was an attempt to prove how off the wall I am, YET, you did not offer one word of rebuttal against the points made in the vid-

          I made the invitation without partiality-now PROVE that the state of Kansas has an invisible bend- per how glass is made.

          It appears that facts put the fear of God in people when their world view is challenged. Now reread my comments and yours and judge for yourself who is focused and on point.

          But Tkx for engaging- you get points for trying.

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    • Ark says:

      First link was broken This one is fine.It explains it in straightforward terms.

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      • ColorStorm says:

        Yeah I could link all day long. However:

        ‘In 4 billion yrs Milky Way will collide/cosine 45/ 0.707 x 1037/ 67000mph/ 1.6 million miles a day……..’ etc etc. Try explaining that to a 6 yr old- the true proving ground.

        Really now? She and all space agencies with people sitting behind computers should get out in the world and TEST their paper driven theories.

        She ASSUMES earth’s movements and uses math to fit the model. Nice try. She gets credit though for citing old timers who though earth stationary as not being morons, like todays pseudo scientists are not willing to do engage with ‘cavemen.’

        But maybe you could ask her to explain how KANSAS and FL are dead level- impossible- as there are no flat spots on a basketball.

        Then ask her WHY you can’t walk upside down on a ceiling- like an insect.

        Finally, water seeks its level at rest- everywhere. Every time. The sheer idea of oceans, lakes, rivers, streams- speeding/circling/ spinning/ is darn near lunacy.

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        • Ark says:

          You didn’t watch the video, then?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Yeah I’m glad he wants to protect where we live. But if I were you, I’d dig into the thesis of others who disagree with such numbers and theories, people who btw, are perhaps more reputable than myself.

          Suggestion. Make a post, reference my post, and assert what you know to be by fact, instead of hearsay by others. Should draw a lot of traffic, and the comment thread will be most enjoyable-

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        • Ark says:

          Why didn’t you watch the video?

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  4. ColorStorm says:

    For God’s sake I told u I did- I simply marked the high point of agreement-

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    • Ark says:

      How do you think they made the earth spin?

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      • ColorStorm says:

        How?

        Probably the same way Walt Disney did it back in the ’50s. And the ‘big blue marble’ does not impress- as one of NASA’s computer geeks admitted, ‘it’s photoshopped. It had to be.’

        I remember my toy spinning top too. Lots of fun.

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        • Ark says:

          Do you consider the Apollo moon landings are real or staged on earth?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Tkx ark but not interested in going into the weeds here. Besides, if we can’t even agree on the most basic facts and truth of life…. and where we live, and how we move…

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        • Ark says:

          In the weeds?
          Oh, FFS!
          So you are conspiracy theorist. Well, this explain one helluva lot.
          ‘Scuse me while I head for the nearest emergency exit.

          When it comes to the old grey matter upstairs you are most definitely not firing on all cylinders.
          T’ra.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Yeah Tkx. You saw it on TV. Must be true….
          But conspiracy? Not here. But the genius Don Petit when asked why we did not go back said: ‘we would in a nano second, but we destroyed that technology and it’s a painful process to rebuild.’ Uh huh, yep, the greatest event in history and the tech was cremated? Let’s just say that many good people are still skeptical.

          But I’m suspicious of any govt telling me what I need to eat…….So back to our vid- why don’t more people demand evidence and face the music.

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  5. kiabooks says:

    Flat Earth, John. Got it. Have a great day

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Hi mike- did U follow the thread w: ark? Like you, lots of gripes but NO reasonable refute.

      So I ask u. Write your own post with proof that YOU have witnessed the earth move per the idiotic math of Degrasse, Nye, etc, orbiting @ 66k mph, spinning @ 1067 mph and etc etc- prove it. Not hearsay, but verifiable, testable, observable. Science, you know.

      But as a starter, refute the assertions made On THE VID- prove him wrong re. the connection w: glass, made EVERYWHERE. But be careful to mock what you don’t understand- but atheism needs the globe to circumvent Gods wonderful creation. Use your brain.

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      • kiabooks says:

        Hi John. I, sadly, am not scientifically literate enough to do a post on the subject or to point by point refute almost anything scientific. But there are specific videos from a Professor Dave on YouTube where he has several videos refuting the idea that the earth is anything other than a spherical object… just like the other planets and the sun. You may search for those and enjoy at your leisure. Have a great day

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Tkx mike/ yep, saw his stuff- loads of weaknesses and omissions-

          Strange how people rail against the obvious- but pity the man who is a vendor of another man’s thoughts

          For future consideration- just ask yourself if it is reasonable to assume that the mighty Himalayans incl Everest are guilty of moving: spinning/ gyrating/ while at the same time oceans are said to gyrate also while the waves simply lap at the shore.

          But u hav a gd day too/

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