Amazing isn’t it, how evolution cannot erase the written word, and how the incomparable rainbow in the sky is testament to the goodness and promises of Almighty God.
The rainbow may have been high jacked by the lbjqbvd crowd, and it may have been delegated to the ‘pretty sight and tolerant of everything’ symbol, but rest assured, God does not sleep.
He does not lie, and His memory is pretty exacting. Sure, things are obviously decadent, but things are also very good, it’s just that the good does not get press coverage. Crime sells tickets, and crash sites get tv coverage.
But the rainbow! That peerless reminder and jaw dropping sight- that One is greater than all, and that no amount of alleged ‘global warming’ (see there’s that problem of that globe thing anyway) can summarily dismiss the edicts of heaven.
‘I WILL LOOK UPON THE RAINBOW, and remember……’ says the Creator. Do we get this? It’s not just enough for Timmy and Tammy to say ‘ooh look mom, how pretty….’ nope, the One who tends to the night light, aka the moon, places that combination of the molten looking glass with rain, to confirm His word. But remember what?
Tkx for asking. You have most certainly seen what a few minutes of downpour can do. But 40 days and forty nights of torrential water from above and beneath? Yep, that can be a problem…. But today, wherein God, who is RICH in mercy……
Evolution and all naysayers cannot be happy about this reminder and will continue to excuse, avoid, and explain away what is so d&@m obvious, and put forth Science!! as the great author, owner, and sustainer of such glory.
Yep, thank the idiotic Big Bang for this busted logic. I soo loved seeing this the other night, and I trust your affections are stirred as well. Yet, the proud will remain proud, the stubborn will remain stubborn, and they with good eyesight will see and agree that God is still good, and He keeps His promises.
Have issue with any of this? Well, wise up then.
I teach astronomy and kinematics (the science of motion) at a Catholic classical high school. These are hard core science courses under the umbrella of physics. One of the things we discover is that science and the Christian religion are in complete harmony.
Science teaches how things are put together. Christianity teaches the meaning human life.
Most atheists are science illiterates so they have no idea how things are put together. And because they choose to believe that everything just happened all by itself, every atheist lives a meaningless life.
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What science teaches and what Christianity teaches are entirely dependent upon the hands that do the teaching. Surely u admit to the sometimes bias of both. Hence ‘theories’ and a hundred priests and pastors who vehemently disagree, not with atheists, but with each other.
But ques since u raised the classroom. Children at the age of two are led to believe we live on a moving spinning ball, having never had a science lesson. It is wired into them courtesy of the Apple and globe sitting there. Their assumptions are further assumed till they reach your class.
If a student of yours raises questions that challenge said assertions, do u write him/her off as a Stone Age dunce, or do you gently lead one along thanking him for an alternative view, and daring to question ‘settled’ science. Now then,
What proof other than theory on paper, do you provide, using a working model, that earth, the terra firma upon which we reside, is actually moving?
Explain to the curious student that humans can traverse a basketball like an ant, upside down, without getting dizzy.
Please do not refer to the ancients who challenged the motionless earth with impossible experiments, and who refused to see what their everyday experiences taught them- and what common sense demands.
Have u ever had such a student who refused your lesson/ and how could you give a good grade to such a one who would not change their mind?
Take your time, others would appreciate the convo too.
(Btw, for what it’s worth, science as lectured in scripture, is in harmony with a still earth, and as one imminent older man wrote, who was of the utmost sober mind, that SIN has corroded the intellect of we moderns, especially astronomy, and has brought us to very low opinions of scripture, and a way too high regard for Science.)
Great Lion, Science is what it is. And so is Christianity. Science pursues the truth. Christianity is the truth reveled by God. Therefore, if science and Christianity are taught as someone’s opinion, then neither science nor Christianity are being taught.
John, I’m grateful to God for both my Faith in Jesus and the salvation and Life He provides, and I’m grateful for the Scientific Process/Method that helps us explore our Natural World/Reality. However, I don’t think SOM is going to “bite” on your question to him in the comments regarding the shape or “geometry” of the Earth, our home. And gladly… i will not either. Lol.
As to biting……../salvation is easy enough to understand even with the great price paid. God has also not left us in the dark regarding heaven and earth and everything in between.
Our friend SOM is a teacher of the arts or so it seems. He has students. What I ask if him I ask of everybody. Prove your theory. Test it. Show a model other than ink and paper. You accuse mighty Everest of gyrating at insane immeasurable speeds- whereas I say it is as motionless and stable as the throne of God itself.
I’m pretty sure true sciencexx CD and scripture agrees. But for you, him, Nye, Tyson, whoever to make claim that people can magically walk on ceilings….//
Show the evidence. Prove it. Explain it to a six year old and he may laugh in your face at the amount of words needed to defend something that would fail in any reasonable court of law.
Sorry John, I’m not the one to school you on physics or earth science.
That’s fine- but to know something is to be able to explain it- I have been berated and chastised a thousand times by people refuse to offer one shred of evidence.
Great Lion, The ancient Greeks of 2200 years ago proved that the earth is a sphere. They even measured the circumference of the spherical earth with remarkable accuracy for their day.
By circumnavigating the earth, explorer Magellan proved the earth is a sphere. Just today I was showing my students videos of Mars taken from space and from its surface. I don’t have to tell them much since they can see with their own eyes what our scientific instruments have reported back to their human masters.
And now with the new Webb space telescope humanity can look back 14 billion years to the beginning of the universe.
Plate tectonics is a proven fact. Fossils and rock formations in Africa are also found in South America proving that the were once part of the same land mass (Pangaea).
Mount Everest was formed by the Indian subcontinent pushing into Asia. This has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
We live in a reality that is in constant flux. By the way, the ancient Greeks grappled with constant flux over 2400 years ago.
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‘Can look back 14 billion years….’
Yeah ok silence. You have a wonderful ally in Neil Tyson, that atheist comedian who is worshipped by the mob.
And your idea, (guess) how Everest was made….. please. Stop. ‘Proven’ really? And yeah, I know all about Erotostenes.
But you never addressed how humans can walk on ceilings like ants…… clue:
God has withheld the gift given to insects to man. Now there is proof. Now there is reality.
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Since light has a finite speed (186,000 miles per second), any object we see in the sky is how it was in the past. For example, it takes light eight minutes to travel from the sun to the earth. So we see the sun how it was 8 minutes in the past. Andromeda Galaxy, the nearest galaxy to our Milky Way Galaxy, is 2.54 million light-years distant. So we see Andromeda Galaxy like it was 2.54 million years ago.
Your use of Neil Tyson to discredit science is the same logical fallacy used by atheists to discredit Jesus and God. You can easily see how plate tectonics have shaped the continents. There are tons of good videos on Youtube.
Human beings cannot walk on ceilings like ants because of the relationship between mass and gravity. That relationship is one of Newton’s laws of motion: F = ma. Force equals mass multiplied by acceleration.
It is superstitious to believe that being able to walk on the ceiling is a gift from God.
I only mention Tyson because he is the high priest of science. Because he is atheist, ALL his conclusions and calculations fall waaaay short, and I dare say, are wrong.
His lectures are pure conjecture, and what he calls facts is guesswork.
My ceiling reference btw distinguishes us from bugs. Ball theory ASSUMES men can in fact do that, which is rejected immediately by reality.
I cannot traverse a basketball like an ant; the logical sequence with unimpeachable results should be obvious. The Creator has not given us the ability to walk upside down- a fact that the globe theory demands I believe.
I choose my everyday experience to combat the preaching of the Tyson group which pretends to know more than God.
Great Lion, there is no “high priest” of science unless some crackpot like NIH’s Anthony Fauci appoints himself to that position. Science is growing by leaps and bounds and thus, requires legions of scientists to study new findings and make new discoveries.
Again, Newton’s Law of Motion, F = ma, real science, disproves your understanding. On a spherical Earth, gravity pulls everything toward the center of the Earth (the center of mass). That means that no matter where you stand on the Earth’s surface, you are always right side up.
Also, the basketball cannot be compared to the Earth because of their vast difference in mass (F = ma). Thus, you have used another logical fallacy to explain yourself. The use of logical fallacies invalidates any propositions based upon them.
How did I ever miss this post? Wise up, indeed. Or if you prefer, “believing themselves wise, they became fools.” The Bible is plumb full of such wisdom, reminding us to, “lean not into our own understanding.”
Today we use the term “science” as a bit of advertising, as meaningless as adding in the word “green” or “sustainable.”
I just luuuuv the ever timely ‘be wary of science falsely so-called’ tucked away in the NT- could have been written this morning.
But the rainbow. That colorful spectrum of glory….. God is truly the original Colormaster.
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Insanity, It is a mistake to allow pop culture to form your understanding of words. Science is the exclusive product of Christian Western Civilization. When the properly formed Christian studies science he or she sees God. Science is a way mankind figures out the way things work (reality). The Christian faith is revelation by God that tells us what everything means.
Science keeps us grounded so that our religious faith does not devolve into superstition. My problem with you and the Great Lion is that you are both superstitious. Instead of learning how things fit together (science) you conjure up personal opinions and then offer them as the facts (superstition).
Ah, I think I understand what you are saying, Silence. Here is the problem however, “science” has been so hijacked by the pop culture that it isn’t even “science” anymore. This is why one needs to inject oneself five times with an experimental substance that does a lot of things to the human body, but preventing the disease is not one of them. This is also why one can simply defy biological reality through surgery and injections and changes ones sex.
Alas, “science” is now so perverted it is no longer a good fail safe that might serve to protect one from the alleged charismatics and the so called superstitious. So not having that life ring, means we now need to simply trust in the Lord fully, to lean into Him, and to not be frightened. Some of us are well tethered to Him and unlikely to float off and go tripping the light fantastic. 🙂
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Insanity, Science is what it is. And it is up to Christians to keep it that way. In addition to trusting in the Lord, we must do our duty each day.
It is what it is you say re. Science? Hmmm. Quote
me on this silence:
Science in the hands of unsanctified minds is dangerous.
What ib just said regarding ‘trusted science’ and the likes of Fauci is enough proof how unsettling science actually is. And your 14 billion references as ‘settled science’ is also egregiously unsettling.
Science today is controlled by atheists. Why u are so quick to jump on board is beyond me.
But the rainbow! The promise of God! No more deluge!
Great Lion, In your long life have you ever noticed how science hasn’t gone anywhere since its atheist take over. America used to be a totally different place every 30 years or so until the 1950’s. Since then all science has to show for itself is the birth control pill, the mRNA COVID vaccine and all the computers that run social media.
Atheists can’t find their own butts with both hands tied behind their backs. Let’s leave science to the Christians shall we?
If what u say is true S, you would be hard pressed to defend HOW and WHY the atheist high priests agree with you.
I find such agreement detestable. Eg, they despise the rainbow as accidental serendipity. You have strange bedfellows
Great Lion, What is despicable is you confusing me with atheists. Atheists hate me. They ban me all over the Internet.
Actually S I don’t.
I give u the road and a long leash of grace when it comes to disagreements. But your science is more in harmony with them than scripture that’s all.
Science is what it is, It is not mine. I used Newton’s Laws of Motion to successfully refute your superstitious beliefs in a flat earth. Isaac Newton was a devout Christian. Great Lion, your Medieval superstitions make you and Christianity look foolish. Thus, you are red meat for atheists.
The validity of science is universal. You commit another logical fallacy by claiming that just because some atheists believe in science and I, too, believe in science, that something is wrong with both me and science.
All atheists claims are based on logical fallacies. So too, are all of your claims. That means you have everything in common with atheists, whereas I have nothing in common with atheists.
And whereas atheists get a kick out of you because they think you are absurd, atheists hate me because I am dangerous: I dismantle their arguments with facts and reason.
Dont put words in my mouth silence.
You lose the argument when you say ‘believing in science……………..’ Evolutionists believe in science. Atheists believe in science.
‘Science’ is immune to belief. It is a non thinking entity which requires ‘people’ to survive.
‘Science’ does not care if a tuned piano is pounded by apes or birds or people, does not care if the ‘science’ behind the construction of it, or the vibrations of it- are played to the devil, or God.
You wquate ‘belief’ in science with belief in God. A non- conversation. And I do not care what atheists think of me. God and one person who is truthful is a majority.
I despise the math of 14 billion years as if there was ‘proof,’ (what the heck, its ok to be off a few bullion years……………’)
And I equally loathe the lying science of ‘space’ travel put together courtesy of computers. And what you call logic are unproven assumptions, in this, you actually have more in common with atheists whether you like it or not.
This post is once more about the promises of God, a point which you have avoided- and a point which atheists mock.
See how this works? See the logic? Never a worldwide flood, AGAIN>
Great Lion, You own words speak for themselves. They indicate an irrational mind plagued by superstition. And yes, one believes in science or not just as one believes in superstitions or not. Science is a method for figuring out how things work. Science, not superstition, led to the modern world. The rational thinker understands the limits of science. For example science cannot lead to knowledge of everything. Also, evolution is science. Since all living creatures are based on DNA, all creatures are related to one another, and over time DNA gets reshuffled bringing about physical differences from creatures in the past. But the theory of evolution has some big holes in it. For example, how could Earth’s ecosystem evolve the creature, man, who is master of the ecosystem.? Such questions bring the rational scientist closer to God.
Whoa partner. The world wide flood is superstition? No sense in even addressing anything else of disagreement til this is settled.
Whoa, yourself. You falsely put me in the atheist camp and associated me with Niels Tyson, and now you are trying to change the subject in the face of my rigorous, effective response. You are the one who brought up evolution.
I have doubts about the Noah’s Flood story, to be honest since it is the Hebrew version of the ancient Mesopotamian fable called, The Epic of Gilgamesh (written c. 2150 – 1400 BC. There probably was an epic flood in that area. But how did Noah venture down to Antarctica to snag a couple of penguins, or up to Alaska to chorale a couple of polar bears? God gave us a brain so we could ask questions.
The atheistic camp? How bout the Christian camp too? While you may not certainly be atheist- surely your science is in line with theirs. This is a huge dilemma for you.
While I do agree that TRUE science should lead to God, I reject the classroom guesswork of the 14.3 billion years or whatever. No. Science does not prove it, it only verifies assumptions.
And btw, scripture is plenty plain as to the great flood. There is no ambiguity. You may want to read what the LORD Himself said about Noah….
….in the New Trstament. Thus, your argument is with God and His word, not me.
Awww, such a nice site the rainbow! I know it’s a reminder of the promises God made, but it’s also a stunning example of the beauty He creates.
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Every time I see one appear, I’m stopped dead in my tracks Tricia- always brings thoughts of glory to God. Every time.
I do set my bow in the clouds…….
The word of God is sharper Than ANY two edged sword. Truly humbling. (Hope marriage is treating u well)
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The ‘Big Bang’ is another ‘settled science’ that never made any sense to me. For one thing, how could Infinity be condensed to a single point?
Though he wasn’t a Creationist, this scientist’s theory sounds more plausible, and really doesn’t conflict with Creationism. Anyway, he’s a Dead White Male now and his explanations are laughed at:
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Yes NW, those with cleverest imagination are thought to be genius, even though all the geniuses disagree with each other. Theories are a dime a dozen, and I suppose anything can be proven on paper –
The ‘big bang,’ Settled, yeah right. lol At least your plasma guy dared to challenge what to him that were unsettled conclusions.
Night Wind, The Big Bang was proved a long time ago. It is much easier to understand and much more sensible then “plasma cosmology.” One need only understand junior high science to understand the Big Bang, and a little Einstein, of course.
“On May 20, 1964, American radio astronomers Robert Wilson and Arno Penzias discovered the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB), the ancient light that began saturating the universe 380,000 years after its creation. And they did so pretty much by accident.” 1
Since then extensive studies have been done using sensitive instrumentation sent into space. The just launched Webb Space Telescope is one such collection of instruments. Nowadays, that the Big Bang happened is of little interest because it is an accepted fact. Cosmologists are trying to piece together seconds, minutes, hours and years immediately after the Big Bang.
Remember though SOM that the greater point
made up top referenced the glorious rainbow and the promise God made to Himself:
that He would NEVER flood the earth entirely, again, which, once again, leaves out Nye, Tyson, etc, from the conversation of truth. And it is these people who lecture me? Sorry, no.
I make no apologies for standing with the word of God over both yours and my words.
I will grant that Big Bang is easier to understand. I’ve asked physicists about this and they’ve all rather admitted that Plasma Physics is something that they don’t fully understand themselves. However, one of the problems with comparing the two theories is that Big Bang is based on Gravity as the source of Life (without explaining how it came into existence) while Plasma Cosmology (at least as I understand it) implies Electricity as a creative force. Electrical energy is far more powerful than gravitational energy. As we see in Biology itself, our nervous systems are essentially electrical, the formation of molecules, are formed by electrons, and we know the effects of magnetism on objects which is instantaneous where gravitation pull would take aeons.
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Night Wind, Biology is not cosmology. Gravity is what governs the vast reaches of space time. It is the weakest force but powers super novae, the source of all the elements that make life possible.
Wonderful thank you
Appreciate the handshake
John, just rechecking this. Interesting question: do you know why the rainbow is an arc? Or more exactly.. why it looks like an arc from our perspective here on the ground?
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Well Bar, what I do know is primarily the bow is from God’s perspective and a reminder to Himself: ‘I will never again destroy the earth through water……’. Always relevant in days of wickedness.
Coupled with He who sits above the circle of the earth. ‘Roundabout the throne’ kind of thing. Circles and round can be similar, whereas globular and round like a ball may be true, but globular and circles are never true.
I’m guessing this is what you were after.
Wasn’t after anything but an explanation really. Whatnni understand is that the sun’s light hits the earth, and the water vapor refracts it causing the color shifts. Rainbows are actually “halos” as seen from above. We just see part because of our position here on the surface. In the middle, the light hits more direct, the further away from the middle, the light is color shifted more and more due to the curvature of the earth making the light travel a bit further thru the water vapor the further from the center of the rain “halo”. That’s why the color of a rainbow isn’t uniform, but more color shifted the further out from the center of the rain halo. Rainbows literally testify to the earth as a sphere.
So really, the same reason we have seasons because of the axial tilt is the same reason we have rainbow “arcs” with multicolors toward the furthest edges of the “halo”
—And I was immediately in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne, and he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.—
No rain here needed to make those effulgent colors. The rainbow has been, and always will be God’s engineering marvel, no science needed.
I see the sun and moon move above, on a repeatable schedule, and a predictable manner. It takes a real circus act to convince people that their eyes are deceiving them, and the sun they see moving, is not actually moving.
I would not want to be guilty of telling children that they cannot trust their eyes. How can they then trust anything? The sun moves daily like a clock, it moves by the degrees stated clearly in scripture.
Yeah, the Burj Kalifa spins daily and doesn’t topple over…… I don’t think so. Believe what u will, I’m going/staying with observable facts and the witness of scripture.
Btw, what circle is globular? Globe does not appear ONCE in the good book. Ever wonder why?
I’m not questioning the bible. im questioning, rather Cautioning regarding your interpretation of it. There is no need to deny what the scientific method and physics shows us to be true, and the bible doesn’t mandate that one believes the shape of the earth is either spheroid or flat.
Tkx for the reasonable and non accusatory tone in disagreeing. However, what I’m telling you, I’ve said a thousand x- and people seem to miss the obvious:
We are not talking about the need to ‘interpret,’ as there are no dreams of kings to reckon with. This is why far too many go into the weeds. Daniel interpreted hard sayings.
To say we need to ‘interpret’ the movements of the sun by ‘how the earth gyrates/ orbits/ is kind of devilish if you ask me.
Does the pool table move in addition to the 9 ball rolling on it? Do u also need to interpret that? Or, is it simply as it appears: the pool balls move over a stationary level table?
As far as mandates, the Bible is obviously not a textbook on science, but it does not contradict it either. Scripture is the ONLY reliable source/ origin of science which is the correct foundation for everything else.