Here’s a thought for you. You are standing ALONE, at the peak of K-2. Maybe -60 degrees F that day. 29,000 ft above sea level. The height of a flying 747- Nothing but massive mountain. A chain of splendor.
No one with whom to converse. No book on math or refrigeration. No flowers. No tea. No side dishes. You can see forever. Snow. Ice cold.
Just you and the magnificent view and your absolute smallness in the presence of something greater. Soooooo, where in the world does evolution even begin to creep up in your mind, having no reference for such a thing, no time, no yesterdays news, just you, alone.
Don’t you feel small? You should. If you do not, you think waaay too much of yourself, and not just you, but anybody who reads this.
How dare you say that k-2 and Everest were ‘accidental’ works of cosmic irrelevance or random mountains of purposeless design, having a structure and foundations without an engineer! It’s embarrassing to cling to a world view that it built on selfishness and utter blindness. Yeah, stand on the summit, and point your finger to Almighty God, tell Him He did not create the ranges, and tell him your own brain grew from dew and poo.
And you boast of evolution? The facts of life are against you at every turn. But i digress. Scripture agrees with me. As does common sense. As does the conscience. The irony though? That God does not smite you like a cockroach for being so dense.
Do a great thing. Be small. Lose yourself in the presence of Almighty God. And btw, here’s science at its best.
The Lions Den 
Everest and k2 are not examples of evolution or against evolution. Plate tectonics is what you see. You’re welcome. Glad I could help.
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You must have sleeping in evolution class as ALL things allegedly evolved……….you know, from bees to birds, fish to me, stones to mountains………..yep, a little manure sprinkled over a pebble will germinate to k-2 in lets say 8 trillion years.
Seems though you may have missed the greater point??
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Mountains don’t evolve. They aren’t living (animal, vegetable, mineral) mountains are mineral. Evolution is a Biological diversity thing, not a mountain or mineral thing. Separate things entirely.
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Are you intentionally playing the dunce card? God made the mountains. There is no ‘evolving’ necessary.
The contrast is obvious to anyone who sees such sights where man has no hand in bringing forth such effulgence.
I hear of cruises to Alaska for example, where there is death silence from the passengers who witness the mountains and glaciers. Jaw dropping silence.
Imagine seeing the panorama from Everest. Same analogy.
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Evolution is a Biological thing. Whether the mountains were created or sprang up thru natural means has zero to do with evolution.
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Incidentally, I believe whether God created or God used the natural processes to create the mountains is not necessarily an either or. God certainly can use natural means to accomplish His works and goals.
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What would the ‘natural process’ be for making gold under the ground, coal, water to fill the Seas, oak trees, Mr. Adam and the Mrs, lambs, blood, bones, wheat, pomegranates, etc?
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Says the man who believes the earth is a “plane” and the moon landings were filmed by Kubrick. Lol
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Ha!
The earth is indeed a plane, as airPLANES and SeaPLANES testify. Dont make your misunderstanding of words my problem.
As to Kubrick, where did I say that? I did say however that the German defector vonBraun alongside Walt Disney were called upon………..so indeed, in a way, old Walt was a founder of Star Trek,, oops, I mean Nasa…………..
But once again, you have a habit of taking a post into the weeds.
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You missed the point. Does ColorStorm believe some silly things? I suppose so, but you still missed the point.
Does the formation of K-2 have anything to do with Theory of Evolution? Not directly, but the same people who argue for the Theory of Evolution argue for a chain of events that supposedly goes back to the Big Bang.
Can we prove that the Big Bang happened? Can we prove that that our solar system formed from a cloud of gas, dust, and debris? Do we truly know how our sun ignited? Were any of us around to witness the eons it took for our earth to cool, for the mountains and the oceans to form, and for life to appear?
Imagine the arrogance it takes to say with certainty that human beings evolved from self-replicating proteins that we don’t know how to form ourselves. Yet experts tell us with utter certainty that The Theory of Evolution is true. We cannot reproduce what happened to create life and evolve it, but we know for certain that is what happened?
Are there good arguments for the Theory of Evolution? There certainly seems to be. Are there good arguments for Creation Theory? There are few scientific arguments. That is why scientists don’t like the theory. If God simply spoke fully developed life into existence, we have no hope of replicating what our Lord did when He created life. All we can do is look for traces of Noah’s Flood.
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Did God create the earth and all therein…? I’d answer emphatically Yes. Did he create mankind and all life? Against emphatic yes. The details we can sift thru with scripture and faith… But we we need not discount what the scientific method and natural investigations lead to either. That’s all I’m saying.
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Agreed!
What many tend to forget is that science is not a very good tool for studying some things. We use forensic techniques to study what happened in the past. Because we can replicate the processes that created the evidence, forensic techniques work well for studying events in the recent past. Think crime scene. However, how do we go about replicating the processes that created the evidence we have for the existence of dinosaurs? We extrapolate. Think about what that means.
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It’s not my place to debate one’s spiritual beliefs as I personally find that a battle not needing to be “fought”. Which then causes me to ask… why do so many “need” to debate between science and the Bible? Is one expecting to walk away that much more affirmed, or not, in their own belief? I dunno.. it just seems so much a part of blogging in some venues.
Anyway, your post, CS, in using the experience on K2 reminds me of how the astronauts had always felt when seeing the Earth from a distance. Those fellows are about as dependent on science simply to be in that situation in space, yet they all express the humbleness at our seeming insignificance in the greater universe, and a beauty that could only have originated from the Creator. But here’s bit of my perception given the complexities mankind can demonstrate. Let me pose this scenario I use to sometime illustrate Maslow…
You are some stage of early man. You’ve been hunting for days trying to find food that for whatever reason has been scarce. You are pretty famished. In your quest you stumble across this big chasm in the ground (to be named The Grand Canyon by future man). As you gaze across this big “hole” you stumbled across you spot a food source… a rabbit, sitting across this hole on a ledge. But you can’t reach it, you can’t seem to lure it away from it’s place. The thing just stares back you from across that chasm, seeming to dare you to try and get it. But all you can do is watch it from beyond your grasp. Your hunger growing worse, you look around for some sort of path, a safe ledge to climb. you even toss a few rocks at it out of frustration. By this time you might be cursing your own spiritual god for taunting you in your moment of life struggle… putting this big hole as an impossible barrier to your survival. You fall back… exhausted… all you can do is stare at the thing.
Then your peripheral vision you spot a movement behind a piece of sagebrush. You look to see…. it’s another rabbit! This time it’s within your grasp! With every ounce of strength you can muster… you manage to catch the thing.
A half hour or so later you have fallen back, belly full, eyes closed thanking your gods you are alive for another day. You fall asleep for a much needed nap. When you awake, you turn your head, and your eyes are now greeted with the beauty of that grand canyon.. the colors… the river below… the sky over it… that just a while before you were cursing as a formidable barrier to your survival.
As an illustration about Maslow and his Hierarchy of Needs, when one element is satisfied man will seek the next level of satisfaction. Satisfying his hunger allowed him the “time” to perceive/interpret beauty.
But as I am relating to your post here…. is it that God created the beauty all around… or is He due our eternal thanks for creating mankind to perceive beauty, where other living things do not because of other instincts at play for their survival? When we are suffering from a terminal malady all of a sudden the little things around us have a measure of “beauty”… a blade of grass… a mud puddle…. many of us even “find” God at the time of our demise…. because our priorities have shifted.
Do we “interpret” beauty in whatever is part of our existence, rather than presuming beauty was created for us?
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You put some work into that doug.
But yes, it is your place to debate. To argue, not in the way the word is used today where everything is an ‘argument,’ but to gather an arsenal of information, like you just did, to make a case. To argue.
While you are right in saying one mans wife may be another mans witch, (mountains/cursings/rabbits),
the greater point is: from whence came these rabitts, these mountains, these canyons? At the end of the day, I think we become more stable having a foundation of truth which is not just as relevant as every d**m opinion under the sun. I her godawful ‘opinions’ every day, and they are nauseous.
But to have our mouths ‘stopped’ is a very good thing.
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There is nothing I love more than losing myself in the presence of God’s awesome creation. The mountains are but one of many but happen to be one of my favs. Well done ColorStorm. 🙂
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Hi Tricia! Tkx a lot/
Not a day goes by where the immeasurable glory of God cannot be seen, felt, and experienced.
Happy holidays too-
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And happy holidays to you as well my friend!
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