In a recent discussion, a little word invariably popped up, an uncomfortable word to be sure, a word never heard in board rooms, hospitals, sports arenas, dinner parties, Wall St, and in most cases, a word shunned or ignored in polite society. That three-letter word is Sin.
Saying it does not exist does not make it non-existent. Saying you do not believe it does not make it unbelievable. But saying you have never ‘sinned’ does make you a liar. Ah yes, that little white lie that so encroaches humans. The nightly news report is simply a broadcast of sin if you will.
Shootings. Why? Thefts, corporate or personal. Why? People beat to a pulp in broad daylight. Why?Males in female rest rooms. Why? High speed auto crashes. Why? Politicians hiding their nefarious crafts. Why? The burning of police cars. Why? The killing of pets. Why? The rape of neighbors. Why?
Shall I add a thousand more daily examples that prove this little word is real and personal? Shall I prove further the results of a bad germ grown to a heinous beast? Shall I prove the utter stupidity of people who say ‘sin is made-up,’ or does not exist, if only in the minds of the religious deluded?
Take your bias to the scrapyard, and reason apart from the bane that you call religion. I have said on multiple occasions that ‘pure religion’ is the best of all, where no rational mind would dare challenge.
Not man-made religion, but ‘pure religion,’ that is, to ‘visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.’ No small task here, but a notable pursuit. And here we see the gem of perfection that proves ‘sin’ is real and true.
Stealing penny candy is not only inappropriate, and you may think it is cute, but it falls short of perfection, it is sin. Sin does not need a teacher. But it does have many friends and faces. Courts are a place where sin is adjudicated. Fact. Yet, our little word is not welcome, but it would explain and set right a whole host of misdeeds.
Fortunately, and much to the chagrin of the Pride contingency, there is One who does not tally our defects like an employer looking for reasons to fire, nope, He is a good Boss, one with no guile. But it is a good idea not to sass or backtalk to the One who owns the cattle on a thousand hills, and all the air and water we so daily enjoy.
The lesson of ‘he that is without sin, let him cast the first stone,’ is so rich with practical insight, that we should be so embarrassed to argue otherwise. So saying ‘there is no such thing as sin,’ makes such a person not only blind to common sense, but dense to reality, ie, the daily news.
And by the way, I purposefully left out what is ‘good,’ as this is a separate thing, for One asked: ‘why callest thou me good?’ Two wonderful truths. ‘There are none good, no not any.’ ‘Zacharias was a good man.’ Deal with the ‘sin’ word, and you may get insight with the good thing.
So watch the daily news, and you just may rethink your views on that monarch of books which is above all others.
The Lions Den 
I don’t remember whether it was skylark or Ark who, just your last post, said sin was an offense against the genocidal Canaanite god, Yahweh. Maybe if an armed robber paid them a visit in the dead of night, those two would get a more factual idea of what sin was.
Aloof, out of touch atheist snobs make light of sin because they live in places that don’t suffer from all the mayhem, suffering and death that results from sin.
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I think you nailed it Silence.
It’s never ‘personal’ with them. But sin is fact very personal.
They blame God for men’s wayward acts, but ignore the Fact that God pronounced His creation ‘very good.’ Gee, I wonder what happened.
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Sin is considered any transgression against divine law(sic)
Ergo, as you cannot provide any evidence for the divinity you grovel to then I will assert I don’t sin.
Period.
Btw, please write a post debunking Colorstorm’s idiotic belief in a flat earth.
I really need a good laugh and I know you would make this nonsense a real hoot and a half.
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Ark, There you go again, showing off your master Googler skills. Parrots speak but they do not understand what they are saying.
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Says the man who believes he is as sinner and can only achieve salvation via the blood of a first century human sacrifice, itself the supposed progeny of the genocidal meglomaniac Canaanite deity,Yaweh.
Yeah, you are the man, SoM. Captain Sensible personified
What a thoroughly Indoctrinated Dick you truly are.
Why don’t you sign up to CS’ flat earth cult.
🤦♂️
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ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Yet here we have the great ark- impervious to sin. So yeah, naturally you are exempt from the human race.
(Ask your mom how adept you were at sinning before you learned to walk)
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Quoting anonymous scripture to an atheist is the height of imbecility.
Look up the word sin and read the definition.
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Ark, You don’t get to tell me what I believe. That’s up to me, not you. You have proven time and again that you don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand what I believe.
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You are a Catholic.
I know what Catholic dogma demands of its sycophant believers.
Do your beliefs run contrary to mainstream Catholicism?
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Ark, Your understanding of Catholicism comes from your own fevered mind. Which means you haven’t the foggiest idea what I believe.
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Then share your understanding of Catholicism with us all.
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Ark, In every comment I have every made to you, I have expressed my Catholic faith.
You are oblivious because you are lost in your mind. Such a condition is called, solipsism, which is the natural condition of people like you.
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I am fully aware of your Catholic faith</ em>.
Therefore why are you trying so hard to deny the foundational tenets of this faith, namely, you are a sinner who requires salvation via the redemptive blood of a first century human sacrifice, the bible character Jesus of Nazareth.
Belief in him will ensure you eternal life… so says the dogma.
Of course, you could miss out when Jesus / Yahweh returns.
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Ark, You are aware of your belly and your pecker. Everything else is stuck on stupid.
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As your comments become more idiotic with each posting you once again confirm what an ignorant twat you truly are.
You simply cannot run away from the fact you consider yourself a sinner in need of the redemptive power of the blood of the first century human sacrifice, Jesus of Nazareth.
It even tells you this is true in the fraudulent text of 1Peter, for Yahweh’s sake.
This is what you believe.
Maybe you are gripping your own pecker too tight and you are restricting the blood flow to your head?
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Ark, My comments seem idiotic because I am describing you. You need to get a brain and heed my rebuke.
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You simply need to a knowledge that the things I have described regarding what it means to be a Christian applies to you as a Catholic.
If you deny this then you are either a blatent liar or you are not a Christian.
So, do you believe in the redemptive power of the blood of the character Jesus of Nazareth? Yes or no?
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Ark
Why is it so difficult for you to answer a question? You are an expert on sin. You know all the right answers, and you know all the wrong answers. Otherwise, you could not be sinless. And without the help of God. So, please tell us. What makes something right, and what makes something wrong?
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Five stars and a bulls eye.
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Oh, I did not realise you wanted to discuss morality.
I thought you were prattling on about sin and sinners
Why didn’t you say so in the first place?
If need to ask what makes something right or wrong then you shouldn’t be asking the question and rather consult a mental health professional.
Perhaps you meant to ask from where humans derived their morality?
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Ark, Morality and sin are the same discussion. Why can’t you comprehend such simple and easily understood concepts?
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“Morality and sin are the same discussion”
Wrong.
Morality derives from evolution.
Sin is a theological construct.
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Ark, there is no morality in evolution because evolution is a natural process which has no need of morality. Only man needs morality because there exit right and wrong, good and evil, happiness and wickedness.
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Your ignorance is your star quality.
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Ark
You don’t need to squirm and twist and turn like a snake in the grip of a strong hand. Effectively, you have given us your answer. You are your own god. You are your standard of right and wrong.
The worship of self is the default position of an Atheist. An alternative, often more common, is to turn to the State. If it is legal, it is right; if it is illegal, it is wrong. Apparently, that is not your position. If it was, your could not be sinless. This country has too many laws.
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You are definitely mentally challenged.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. Period.
If because of your personal insecurities and lack of faith in your own beliefs you feel the necessity to make my lack of belief into some sort of religion then go right ahead.
All you do is make yourself come across as an ignorant, disingenious fool.
Please note: I am perfectly okay with this as, based on the evidence of the first comment of yours I ever read it is the one thing you have confirmed time and again.
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Ark/
what does this comment say about yourself? Trying to argue with people who are allegedly ‘definitely mentally challenged?’
Seems we have the advantage eh? There’s nothing like a sound mind, yet you challenge this very thing.
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Ark
You are engaging in a logical fallacy, ad hominem. As ColorStorm points out, you are making yourself look awful, not me.
Atheists love to point that Christians use their belief in God as some kind of crutch for dealing with life’s harsh realities. Marx, of course, is infamous for referring to religion as the opiate of the masses. But there is a problem with using that sort of argument. It cuts both ways.
The God of the Bible is holy, holy, holy. He is also All- Powerful, sovereign over us and everything else. We are awed by the holy. We know we are unworthy. So the presence of the holy is intolerable. The presence of the holy makes it impossible for us to believe we are good. We are horrified by the presence of the All-Powerful. In the presence of God, we know that He is sovereign over us, that we have no more control over our lives than He allows us and there is nothing we can do about it.
Hence your endless ad hominem attacks. Because you are afraid — because you don’t know the love of God, you angrily assault those who proclaim His existence and His love for us.
The solution is this. Recognize that God loves you. Return his love. There is no fear in love.
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You sound more unhinged with every new comment.
You are the the type of individual children need to be warned of.
You are a very sick man.
Seek help.
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Sin is like leprosy, and I have sought help.
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Ark will not see the irony of honesty Ct/
In addition, the leper is contagious. Some would rather wallow in their self inflicted spots.
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None are so blind as those who refuse to see.
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Really?
At a clinic or a specialist in mental health issues?
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How old are you? When are going to realize that your childish insults just point to your own immaturity?
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Really?
And on a scale of 1 – 10 how mature would you rate someone who believes they are a sinner and can only receive salvation via the blood of a first century human sacrifice you consider divine?
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Ark, A definite 10.
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And that demonstrates how mentally disturbed you are.
One can hope you have no children.
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How moral is the hungry lion who roars, and whose teeth strike fear into everything?
How has his morality improved????
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Ark, see if you can figure this out:
A man is struggling in the ocean 30 miles from shore in brutal cold. Almost drowning as he calls out for help. ‘God if you are there help me.’
Seconds later a helicopter arrives and drops a line. He doesn’t take it.
Seconds later a raft appears and he doesn’t get in.
Seconds later Coast guard boat appears and he doesn’t accept help.
Who is to blame when he drowns? All of us here, SoM, CT/ Bar/ IB/ Tricia/ Julie/ Wally, etc etc. have used various tools to help you. You refuse them all because you want the heavens to open and call your name – guess what? Your name has been called. And what do you do? Insult the Coast guard……
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At least come up with an original analogy.
This one was told as a joke decades ago.
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No. I tailored it just for you. There are no doubt similarities but the point is made. You reject help as well as Truth at every turn.
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John, I’ve never liked that story. In the real world, the rescuer doesn’t worry whether the “rescuee” wants to be rescued. He just rescues. And if the person somehow in the middle of the ocean, treading water within an inch of his life manages to say “bugger off”, the rescuer chalks it to delusion and pulls him out anyway. Only in The Incredibles movie did I ever see the person sue the rescuer for doing so. We need to ditch this silly, irrational and unrealiatic analogy. Just my opinion, humble or not. 🙂
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Tks Bar/ but you and ark BOTH are missing the point. It’s not about the rescue alone.
It’s the tools that believers share here on my blog. We are all different. We agree/ disagree on many doctrinal issues. Globe/ etc/ grace alone/ pre Trib/ millennium/ immersion/ sprinkling/ dinosaurs/ billions of yers/ etc etc
So the MAIN point, if u saw the thread- is how ARK tries to pit believers against each other- and I prove- in spite of differences- all of us offer tools to help an atheist/ anybody, see his own lack of awareness.
He/ they/ continually ask for evidence. I provide it.
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The world is as God created it. To believe the truth and not a lie of our own making is the only way to earn a 10.
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So you are a Creationist.
One can only hope that your children recognised how deranged their father is and distanced themselves and their children from the filth you preach.
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Ark
You don’t have any answers. I have asked, and you do nothing except call people names unless they too believe there is no God and pretend that they don’t have an opinion.
You just have criticisms. That makes you useless even to yourself.
Theodore Roosevelt wrote about the critic. You may wish to read his words.
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Present evidence for your god,Yahweh, then we can have an interesting conversation.
Away you go …
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‘The wages of sin is death.’
Since you are not a sinner, you will live forever here on earth. BUT,
should you die like all others, SIN is the only evidence you need.,All your questions are answered in scripture- if you are honest.
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Yeah,quoting anonymous bible text! That’s the ticket!
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Take note of th title of the post:
a little discomfort…… Tom is right. You are squirming trying to ignore the obvious.
We who have tasted the good word of God are not ashamed to point out what truly good food is.
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Ignore the obvious?
You are indoctrinated, reject evolution, and have no evidence to support any of your religious beliefs.
I consider I have never ignored the obvious.
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Present evidence you actually care about my opinion.
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Where’s the laugh button when u need it!
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Nobody cares about your opinion,Tom.
One reason you get so few comments on your blog when you write all your paranoid political posts.
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ALL his posts eh??? Seems you have first-hand knowledge………way to go. And who cares how many comment? Maybe thousands read but cannot stand the scorching daylight.
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Well, yes. I was specific. All his paranoid political posts. Most of Tom’s posts are visited by a select few.
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Yeah that’s right, creationist.
Tell your kiddies that your beautiful dining table was the result of a hurricane that tore up the neighborhood-but somehow made intricate mortise and tenon joints.
I’m sure they will laugh at the preposterous notion…..
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Should I tell them this after I inform them the earth is flat or before?
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I believe that we primarily ‘sin’ against other people and even ourselves and our own self interests. We are mostly our own and other’s worst enemies.. Satan ain’t got nothing on us. Lol. But sin against God is really in our disagreement with Him and His character/design for our Lives as His Creation.
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Agree for the most part Bar/
Except the Satan thing. He surely does have a notch up, quite the crafty creature.
Eg, Peter: ‘Who me, deny you? Never.’ So the Lord knew precisely where this came from…..
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@barabas me
Out of interest why did you write sin with parentheses?
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I guess because sin against others isn’t really “sin” per se. You can only Sin against God. Our ‘sin’ against each other shouldn’t really be called that. Thus… parentheses. Just my opinion, not sure it’s theology
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Barabbas, Were you a Christian and not an atheist you would understand that when people sin against each other they sin against God.
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Ah… SoM, but I am a Christian, and definitely not an atheist.
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Barabbas, Were you a Christian and not an atheist, you would know that when people sin against each other, they sin against God.
Barabbas, You can deny what you are but your own words speak the truth about you.
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Can you point me to a reference scripture to that?
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Barabbas, Yes. Look up the greatest commandment. Then put your thinking cap on and try to understand what Jesus is teaching us. Also, see Genesis where God says he created man in his own image, male and female. You’ll need your thinking cap for that one too. Then look up the original sin of Adam and Eve. Those are just three Bible references off the top of my head. I am sure there are more.
Real Christians understand that the Bible teaches when people sin against each other, they sin against God.
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The only specific ref, such as I was asking you for, might be ps 51 “against thee only..”, but that isn’t a general statement. It’s specific to David’s situation as king of Israel under direct responsibility to God. Would you be able to point to another “specific” example of what you claimed to be the “general” rule that sin against others is really sin against God?
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Barabbas, You don’t get to dictate how I answer questions. You asked a question. I answered it with the truth.
Atheists like you have trouble with that concept because your arguments are so horrible that you need to rig any discussion in your favor. I let the truth speak for me. Atheists make their personal opinions speak for them.
Which is more powerful, the truth or personal opinion?
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@Barabas Me
Lol!
And as you will note, SoM truly hates it when he is called out by a fellow Christian for being an ignorant arse, hence his little girl tantrum!
Well done, Barabas. That made me laugh out loud.
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Wasnt really intended as such, but im glad you’re amused
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@Baravas Me.
Ah, fair enough.
Therefore as no evidenice exist for your god, Yahweh, on what grounds do you consider yourself to be a sinner?
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LOL! I don’t want to step into the middle of a good bar fight, but I also believe we only sin against God and not really against each other. In fact, it’s all the sinful people trying to define “sin” in the first place, that creates so much confusion! Sin also involves some variables. Is it a sin to go into a temple, throw over some tables, and chase people out with a whip? Well, it kind of all depends! Sin is not really an offense against a person, it’s an offense against God.
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A bar fight! Now there’s a gd idea. Not of blood but of ideas. I’m sure u could go 10 rds and no black eye.
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I’m not sure, but i think IB just agreed with me? “Progress of a kind”. LOL
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Yep she did. So you are making progress?
There are two levels of our topic here, and while seemingly contradictory, both are correct.
There is obviously sin against God, as well as sin against brothers/sisters. ‘Against thee and thee alone have I sinned,’ said David as was already pointed out. (a different economy)
Yet we have Peter asking: ‘how many times shall I forgive if my brother sins against me?’ Of course we have the 70 x 7 idea. The heart of God shown here is His ultimate patience with us, for how often do we hold a different measure?
Who can forgive sins but God alone was asked, while we have this binding on earth truth, as revealed in that death of Sapphira and Ananaias for ‘lying to God,’ shown in the seriousness and power of apostolic days.
Trespasses, faults, sins, are varying degrees of infractions, ie, parking tickets vs. 100mph in a school zone, but in the judicial court of heaven, true, God is the ultimate judge, it would be good idea if we agreed with Him,.
Thankfully, sin is not imputed when there is no law.
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Belief is not evidence of truth or fact.
Belief can exist in the complete absence of truth or fact.
The belief in a flat earth is a good example.
As is the belief the earth is no more than 10k years old, and the belief the entire planet suffered a global flood or the belief dinosaurs existed / roamed the earth with humans.
Each of the above beliefs is simply nonsense and all have been refuted by scientific evidence.
The same applies to the theological doctrine of sin.
As sin is considered any transgression against divine law, ( sic) ergo Yahweh, for sin to be real the character, Yahweh has to be shown to exist, for one cannot sin against something non-existent.
To date, no evidence has ever been presented to show Yahweh exists. Therefore, the doctrine of sin is merely a belief.
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We believe in the ‘doctrine’ of sin because it is fact. What do call it when your neighbor steals your car, chickens, or violates your wife? Would that word be more closely aligned with obedience, goodness, or philanthropy?
Its understanding why you hide from fact. Its uncomfortable if you follow the bread crumbs to the beginning………….
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We believe in the ‘doctrine’ of sin because it is fact.
For it to be fact you have to provide evidence of Yahweh.
What do call it when your neighbor steals your car, chickens, or violates your wife?
Not sin.
Morality and ethics have nothing to do with your god.
” if you follow the bread crumbs to the beginning ”….. evolution.
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Tks ark. The hole you dig is rather large. If evo is your final answer, then you should have NO PROBLEM if someone else decides to burn your house, kill your family and animals, and force THEIR morality which is in opposition to yours- who decides whether they or you are correct? In their mind, they are acting like hungry lions with every right to pillage and destroy.
In your world there is no right or wrong, survival of the fittest doncha know.
Your cause falls flat completely. Courts are loaded with cases because of sin. Wake up.
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It is difficult to fathom if I am dealing with blatant ignorance on your part or disingenuity.
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I understand you have no foundation for your faith. It’s an intellectual deficit and based on humanistic indoctrination on your part. So I’ll cut you some slack. But take courage, there are many who sympathize with your plight.
Listen to Degrasse Tyson ‘explain’ gravity for example. He is lost as sauce and a virtual embarrassment to all things scientific.
You are in good company. Men are fools without a firm foundation. He collects $ using pure guesswork. I guess people enjoy the circus.
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I do not live my life by faith.
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Sure you do. Everybody does. What you take for granted every day is faith.
Shall i list a hundred examples?
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You mean trust, I suspect,
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It’s all part of the same family eh?
When you develop your pix in the darkroom, you trust (have faith) the image will appear, having not seen it……………
‘Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen………..’
It’s not a pipe dream, but has roots in reality.
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Actually I trust based on experience.
Faith as you understand it I have no need of.
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Ark, You have stated repeatedly your contempt for the Bible. When did you ever experience the Bible? You have just argued with yourself and lost…again.
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Absolutely I have nothing but contempt for the bible and the vile religions it has spawned.
i have never denied this.
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So an inanimate book is responsible for your neighbor killing your fish in the pond because he was hungry. ‘You are more valuable than many sparrows, and they toil not for their food,’ so he read, taking that to mean it’s ok to steal?
The book is responsible for the stupidity of people who read it? Are you serious?
Have you never read that God pronounced His creation very good? Where is your contempt here???
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Once again, a piece of incoherant drivel.
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Ark, Yes you do. Atheism is a 100% faith-based religion since very comment you make is based 100% on your own personal opinion. Which means you are the god of yourself. How stupid is that?
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atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
how does faith play any part?
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Ark, If you are the god of yourself and you don’t believe in god’s, why then, you don’t even believe in yourself. You have argued with yourself and lost, once again.
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Your comments are sounding more unhinged with every new post.
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Though they don’t call it sin, most of the irreligious gangs out there have their own versions of ‘original sin.’ What they really hate are the concepts of Redemption and Repentance. If you listen to most of them for very long, you pick up the sense that “All of us are sinners, so embrace it and celebrate it” while they think that anyone who acknowledges sin then tries to be a better person is a self-righteous bigot.
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Celebrate? Ha.
But the idea of simply acknowledging transgressions should make anyone more of a humble nature.
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Belief in sin requires belief in Yahweh.
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No it doesn’t. The pagans believe in actual sin too.
As for the Atheist Left, they also have their own (invented) categories of sin. To them, all religion is simply a matter of opinion; but one can sin against their Scientism and Atheism by holding opinions outside the ‘consensus.’
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False: Pagans do NOT believe in sin.
“Pagans view the world as a place of joy and life, not of sin and suffering. We believe that the divine is here with us in the natural world, not in some faraway place in the sky. We hold a deep reverence for nature and the earth. Pagans tend to be earth conscious.”
https://www.umass.edu › spirals ›
Please educate yourself as this will help prevent you from espousing garbage.
Religion IS simply a matter of opinion; hence the plethora of idiotic religions across the globe. It is a nothing but revolting
Man Made doctrine that has no basis in fact or evidence.
The bible, for example is nothing but historical fiction and geopolitical foundation myth.
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Christian’s view the world as a place of joy and life , in spite of sin and suffering. We believe the divine is seen in nature, ( a spiders web for example) in addition to hereafter, as seeds and seasons suggest. Christian’s tend to be earth conscious ( do not hurt the trees, per Revelation) as well as heaven conscious.
The Bible is in fact, the only foundation for all knowledge, and the source of all true science. Its contents will remain true, long after atheism is forgotten.
Glad to help.
Christian’s engage the God given brain.
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The bible is historical fiction and geopolitical foundation myth.
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Yeah we know what you mistakenly think. you said it a thousand times.
Try reading it without the useless aid of illiterate historians.
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Noah and his global flood.
Moses and the Exodus.
Both fiction.
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Ark, The nation of Israel proves the Exodus. Modern discoveries in archeology and history written by the ancient Romans prove the existence of the nation of Israel.
Just as the Jews tried to scrub the existence of Jesus from history, the ancient Egyptians scrubbed the existence of the Hebrews from their history after the Exodus. Such is typical tyrannies that have a strangle hold on their subjects.
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Your ignorance is neither new or unexpected.
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Ark, How can a statement of common knowledge be an expression of ignorance? Rather it is your denial of common knowledge that is an expression of ignorance.
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Ark, Modern discoveries in archeology prove the Bible conclusively. Get off Google and start learning reality and how to think for yourself.
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Bollocks!
The Noachian flood is nonsense as is the
Exodus and Conquest.
You could not provide a single piece of archeological evidence to support any biblical tale.
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Ark, You denying common knowledge makes you look stupid. Quit making yourself look stupid. It is embarrassing.
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Are you truly suggesting the Noachian global flood actually happened?
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Ark, I refute you to shame and you blithely change the subject to cover up your failure.
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Are you asserting the Noachian flood actually happened,yes or no?
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Ark, You have shown yourself to be wrong on absolutely everything. Therefore, you are the best argument and evidence for Noah”s global flood.
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What a complete farking moron you truly are.
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Have you seen entire cities engulfed in water having only rained a day????
40 days and 40 nights. Have u ANY clue about the volume of water in this world? Of course you don’t.
The reliable sources are abundant. Then again, scripture is enough. But you are closer than u think with that pesky word ‘global….’
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Educate myself? LOL Maybe those brilliant academics at UMass should have read the 10th Chapter of Plato’s ‘Republic’ instead of interviewing a bunch of LARPers in Downtown Boston. There they would have seen that the pagans certainly did believe that the souls of sinners were judged and punished after death while the virtuous were rewarded. Or maybe the 6th Chapter of Vergil’s ‘Aeneid’ which depicts a journey to the Afterlife where both Heaven and Hell and described—you know: things like we used to have to read in High School? LOL
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I told u not to send links. I am tired of all the crap attachments and viruses-
Glad u are searching tho. One day u may wake up. What a stupid ‘experiment.’
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Too afraid someone might follow the link and read it and realise what an ignoramus you are?
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No ark. I could post a thousand links of my own.
Don’t play link pong. People slip them in.
That experiment is so lame it’s not worth addressing. Do your own d$&n research. Go to the ocean. The mountains. The desert. Waterfalls. Clue for the day: what does airPLANE signify.
What does seaPLANE signify? What does seaLEVEL signify?
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Smh… You are hysterical
Truly pathetic.
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its ok ark. I know this is well above your pay grade. But you would luv to believe the science fiction that kilimanjaro and Everest are somehomw whirling through space at speeds no one can measure………… go for it. I live in reality.
Earth is motionless, unless for the occasional lapping of the waves at the shore. lol
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Insanity is…
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