Hear ye hear ye all teachers, thinkers, humans with common sense, and any ape who may be reading Jungle Jim at the moment. Look at the following comment below. Really look at it. Think about the ramifications of such unintelligence cloaked as fact or knowledge. Be honest with yourself, and how you align, or do not align yourself with any supposed theory, which by the way, leaves out the Creator. I have nothing but absolute scorn for such witchcraft, with a side order of pity.
Weigh carefully and slowly the assumed and pretended ‘facts,’ and ask yourself WHY or IF you believe something that has absolutely NO basis in reality, appeals not to your affections, nor meets the standard of repeatable testing and conclusive results.
I could not let this false science go unchecked, especially when the source garnered so much road kill and the disdain of passersby. Don’t do me the favor, do yourself a favor, and judge fairly and squarely the information and be brutally honest with yourself. Please do not take for granted that University level material is necessarily ex cathedra. Just think Bill Nye the science clown, or DeGrasse Tyson the lousy comedian, who collectively are more lost than London fog in explaining WHY ships disappear over the horizon.
Is this boring? You decide, but it sure makes for interesting conversation, especially when we are spoon fed crap that has zero nourishment. Atheism and its godless scientists prove no calories. Sorry, tis a fact. Enjoy.
‘In the second case, the shape of the planet is dependent on the process of its formation. The formation of a planet is a slow process which involves constant collisions with meteors over millions of years. Due to the large timescale of formation, the net number of collisions over its lifespan in any particular direction will be equal to that of any other direction as a consequence of law (2). Therefore on account of symmetry, the shape after years of collisions……………………………’ (no more crap needed)
The process of its formation? And you know this process ye pretended learned one? You were there to document the formation? You peer reviewed this with who, eye-witness monkeys millions of years ago who were once whales who were once penguins who were once foxes who were once wise owls who had part time jobs as scribes?
The formation of a planet is a slow process? And you know this formation apart from your guesswork and assumptions? Assumptions are a dime a dozen, and are the marching orders from stupidity. Like watching a tea kettle slow, or watching a turtle walk coast to coast slow?
The process involves constant collisions with meteors over millions of years? Do you see why I can’t stand atheistic science? Do you see why I loathe the pretension of pseudo professors who do not know the difference between Genesis and Revolution? Do you see why I cannot in good faith, or in the interest of common sense, cast my lot while seeing such a lack of mental honesty as it masquerades in deceit?
Pure words meant to incite frenzy by unprincipled minds which detest the Creator, and we are supposed to say ‘amen’ to such dazzling bs? We are supposed to bow down to such advanced theory which specializes in guesswork? Sorry, not eating that poisoned bait.
‘Due to the large timescale of formation, the net number of collisions over its lifespan in any particular direction will be equal to that of any other direction as a consequence of law.‘ The net number? And what IS the net number? Estimates will not do. Was it one, two, four, a hundred, a thousand, a million, a billion….? Are you not beginning to see the untenable position of godless science which has infected the believer’s foundation?
Guess what? It has not infected mine, nor will it ever, as the foundation of God’s word is sure and steadfast. God created science, while imposters specialize in false science so-called. True science always aligns with known truth. Always. Every time and in every place.
The broken canopy above, also known as clouds, are a daily hovering indictment against the science of atheism, which excommunicates God from His own creation, and sees the clouds above as mere acts of serendipity, having no law of order, and no use for absolute truth. Don’t fall for junk science. But I’m beginning to think that apes must be extremely disappointed in the carnage caused by their successors….
Dat be some bad apery. I jest of course.
(From this sideshow of a comment which was nothing but an intentional detour and distraction)
The Lions Den 
This is a joke post, right?
For example, you surely know that the major celestial bodies – sun, planets, moons – in our solar system are more or less spherical, and you acknowledge the reason why they are this shape, yes?
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A joke? If you read the post slowly as suggested, you would see how it is not about shapes, but it clearly demolishes the ASSUMPTIONS of HOW conclusions are arrived at.
So no, no joke, and always happy to point out the bastard relationship between the studious children of godlessness as it pretends to be literate and fair minded. The post is rather clear toward this end, and most reasonable people will agree.
Remember yesterday how your clock was cleaned because you did not know that murder and killing are not twins? Same thing ark.
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Again, do you not consider our closest celestial bodies, to be spherical? Please offer a direct answer.
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Try to focus. It is irrelevant at the moment as to my opinion. This post demonstrates the complete folly of nutty professors with their pretended knowledge and ignorance of HOW things were, are, and will be.
For God’s sake, a meteorologist (weather forecaster) cannot get right a two day weather pattern, and these are the same people who have sat at the feet of Darwin and DeGrasse, and are CERTAIN of things ‘millions’ of years back? Give me a break.
I know what I believe, but I am well aware of your plots, and where you want to drive a conversation. Let’s just focus on YOUR heroes of academia and the mental empty calories promoted as good bread.
But here’s a hint: one star differeth from another in glory. So no, they are not all cut out of the same cloth. And no, they hardly need the alleged light from the sun to shine forth and reveal God’s glory.
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No. Not irrelevant at all. Your method of of argument smacks of the same level of idiocy touted by Ken Hamm and his YEC half wits.
What next? Why The Ark was real and because you atheists weren’t there you don’t know, nyah, nyah, so there.!
As you are not prepared to answer the question I posed regarding the spherical shape of the celestial bodies in our solar system it strongly suggests this was something you may not have anticipated.
Somewhat of an ”Oops” moment.
And remember. You are entutled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Tell me you acknowledge that the celestial bodies in our Solar System are spherical, John.
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Look ark. I try to be patient with you. As to my foresight of your script, others will see and know that I am entirely correct here; you just mentioned the ark of Noah’s day……
…..and you say you do not drive a post toward YOUR end? You must think believer’s are stupid, but once more, I am a week ahead of you. 😉
This post (to repeat for the 3rd time) is about the CONCLUSIONS reached by ASSUMPTIONS; so in this there is no ‘oops’ moment as you like to imagine.
The celestial bodies are not identical per the Creator; His middle name is not Xerox
But if you think the stars above are a bunch of purposeless rocks, maybe you watched too many episodes of the Flinstones.
As to ‘opinions vs. facts,’ thank you, I have clearly demonstrated that nutty professors specialize in opinion.
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The conclusions reached are based on accumulated evidence.
What EXACTLY is your damn issue regarding science?
You postulate a man rose from the dead with absolutely no damn evidence whatsoever!
You believe the earth os no more than 10,000 years old – and you are allowed to think that and not be locked up in an institution for mental health sufferers.
Evolution, for example, is fact – and don’t you dare be a churl and come back with the word theory – and you deny it!
And the conclusions drawn about planets are based on evidence.
It is called science.
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You are a laff a minute ark. Read ib22’s comment above; nobody here fears science, true science that is.
From the ark bait refused, now you jump to the resurrection, but before the 10k age, of which if you are honest, (I won’t call you a liar here) you would know I never said as much, that said, you are at a disadvantage here, and I understand your plight, because you have trouble processing information.
My post here was spot on, painful for you I’m sure, as it exposes fraudulent ‘facts,’ and yes, crushes false ‘theories,’ because ‘assumptions’ were used.
If you really wanted to be scientific, you would focus on things seen, as well as things unseen, yet equally provable, such as the exquisite scent of the lily of the valley, yet you have not one drop of evidence it exists.
Science falls short when it does not consider the eternal and the soul. The scent is the soul, yet you berate its existence. Not too smart.
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Please detail a single fraudulent claim made in the science comment and support with scientific evidence.
Afterwards, outline the evidence for the resurrection and explain why it is not a fraudulent claim.
Thanks.
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As to paragraph 1, I explained it perfectly in the post you are commenting on. I highlighted the main defects in blue and commented.
As to paragraph 2, may I borrow my own favorite thought: If you do not at least give God the courtesy of existing, you are in a poor frame of mind to understand or believe what is not only possible, but what actually happened.
In addition, the rare mind of the brilliant apostle Paul, once Saul, anticipated such objections as yours, and said ‘doth not nature itself teach you?’ ah yes, nature, the revelation of the spiritual, such as a flowering bulb put INTO THE GROUND…….. dead as it were, only to arise again,, not as a bulb, but as a flower………resurrected as it were.
Gotta love the lessons of nature which always agree with scripture. You may want to actually consider scripture ark, instead of what others say about it.
Believing in resurrection is easy. Life supports it. However the truly miraculous is atheism; how a man cannot see the Divine………
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So, no evidence just your usual gum flapping.
You are simply yawn worthy, and rather silly, I am afraid,
Not to mention somewhat of a fraud yourself. And you know why, I’m sure.
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Yep, me a fraud. I believe every word of scripture. Thank you for the compliment.
As opposed to clouds without water, raging waves of the sea, unstable souls, foaming out their own shame………so yeah, I rather like the company of good people.
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You’re welcome, but rather think of it as an indictment.
So, are you going to acknowledge that the planets in our solar system are roughly spherical or are you going to try to hand- wave this away too?
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What does a straw look like when it’s underwater? Is it really bent, or simply refracted?
If we cannot see the connection between discrepancies a mere few feet from us, how in God’s good name could you possibly say with a straight face what is beyond your grasp in the heavens?
A man who has not discovered the mysteries of the dew drop is in no position to venture above the clouds where lies uncharted waters.
The water above and below laugh at men’s distorted opinions.
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Because we have examples of meteorite stikes hwer on earth.
We also know what happens to small ones when they hit our atmosphere.
And we also know what happens to celestial bodies that do not have any atmosphere – such as the moon.
Based on this evidence why are ouy struggling to acknowledged the truth in the comment you have tried – and failed – to deride?
That you sit there ans probably smirk for not answering the question regarding the spherical shape of celestial bodies speaks volumes about you patent ignorance and the serious embarrassment you are now subject to for trying to hide behind lies.
It never works John.
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I’m pretty sure fair minded people who follow your questions/lack of seeing the answers, know that I lie not.
I’m sorry if this post makes you uncomfortable; surely it does as it exposes ASSUMPTIONS; but I am not sorry for telling the truth.
As to your imagined ‘struggle’ that I suffer from, I have a blog with consistent and numerable proof that says otherwise.
You have yet again failed to see the point staring you in the face. If your perception is skewed a mere few feet from your face, this false perception is magnified the further you travel……………aw nevermind.
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It does not make me in the least uncomfortable.
You are trying to denigrate and deny scientific evidence.
If you are too afraid to actually state in black and white the point you are trying to make than I am afraid your obfuscation and anti scientific stance will have to stand as testimony to your ignorance and disengenuity.
That l can only help you with if you are prepared to be honest and accept evidence.
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The post you are commenting on is not ambiguous in the least. As a matter of fact, it is crystal clear.
But do know, I have PROVED the false position of your alleged EVIDENCE as pure fraud, put forth by nutty professors as gospel. True science fears nothing.
I also have common sense on my side, something that a thousand PhD’s cannot buy. 😉
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No, you will be telling me Noah’s Ark and the global flood are real historical events .
You are a blatant science denier and you know it.
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Seeya seeya wouldn’t want to beeya beeya.
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Have you ever noticed, John that, the only ones on your blog that ever agree with your nonsense are the same ones who think that evolution is, by and large, a hoax?
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Based on this post alone ark, it’s rather easy to see how and why evilution is a hoax, so fair minded people readily agree, yes.
And for what it’s worth, it really doesn’t matter as to the number of people who agree; what is interesting is the QUALITY of people who agree, and in this I am thankful.
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There you go … ”evilution.”
Tells us all we need to know doesn’t it?
And this is why no one other than close minded creationist types will ever agree with the nonsense you write, and also why outside of this fringe band of cohorts, you opinions have no credibility whatsoever.
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Tkx for the visit ark.
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Always a pleasure.
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@coffin
Did you know the earth is not perfectly spherical? It is pear shaped. Not enough meteor impacts, I suppose.
Seriously, when scientists start talking about how the earth and the rest of the universe formed, it is silly to call that any other than speculative. You don’t know if God exists, but you know how the earth formed? And you make fun of Christians? That is actually dumb.
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I can add 2 more to the mix CT, based on the stone and dead image of the guy with the cement cap, and that may prove quite apt: dumb,, deaf, and blind, in which case these triplets reveal a lot. and furthermore, much can be forgiven since guys like that are known to be dead men walking. 😉
But you are right, a too strange avatar, I have my own thoughts on the matter, but some things are better unsaid.
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Yes, Tom, we all know it isn’t perfectly spherical. Do you want a quick lesson on why, Tom?
Why not run a bath and go play with your toy Noah’s Ark?
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@coffin
I prefer a shower, but thanks for the suggestion.
Anyway, that’s a curious explanation for a non-spherical earth. Seems like something is missing. When you take a bath with your toy ark, do you put a big pile of dirt in the tub to demonstrate the action of the sea on the land? If so, I expect you have missed the purpose of a bath.
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Exactly what part of the science are you having trouble with,CT?
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Science? I thought we were talking about your religious beliefs, but I suppose you think the two are the same.
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No, we are talking about the science Tom. I have no religion.
So, what part of the science are you having trouble with?
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The absence of willingness to apply the scientific method. When people assert as scientifically true theories that they cannot scientifically prove, they have a faith based belief.
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Allow me to test your assertion if I may?
Do you acknowledge that evolution is fact?
Do you acknowledge that the Earth is a spheroid?
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Why do you believe the Theory of Evolution is a fact?
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Do you believe it is not?
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You are on the spot. It is your faith.
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I beg your pardon?
You raised the question of the scientific method and I asked if you believed in evolution and that the earth is a spheroid.
You have still to answer honestly to these two simple straightforward questions.
Once you do, then we will have established abase for further discussion.
So, please answer the questions, Tom.
Thanks
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Then I guess there is no basis for the further discussion of your faith. No great loss.
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What ”faith” would that be, Tom?
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I have no reason to argue for or against the Theory of Evolution. When people rave about the theory, I yawn. It is speculation, and it is a theory no one actually uses in practice.
If you think the Theory of Evolution is a fact, the proof is your problem, not mine.
When I worked as an orbital analyst in the Air Force, I designed orbits for spacecraft. So I have little doubt about the shape of the earth. How did the earth acquire its shape? How should I know exactly what God did? If you believe you know, then it is up to you to verify that you have scientific proof, not me.
Put up or shut up.
Christians, BTW, don’t claim scientific proof of their beliefs. Our assertions rest upon proofs like eye witness testimony and fulfilled prophecy. All Christians say about science is that science and Christianity are not in conflict.
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Evolution is fact. If you do not accept this then that is most definitely your problem.
Fortunately, such ridiculousness is, generally restricted to those Christians who also think that Noah’s ark and the global flood is fact, or the earth is around 10,000 years old.
How did the earth acquire its shape? How should I know exactly what God did?
And this is where you betray your indoctrination.
Proof? Who ever said anything about proof?
You can’t even provide a single piece of verifiable evidence for the character Jesus of Nazareth and most certainly none for your god, Yahweh and here you are petulantly calling for proof?
As a former analystyou should know very well what science deals with. Evidence.
So maybe you should put aside you faith for one moment and do what you insist of me :
Put up or shut up.
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Comments like this are why your god evo and its nephew atheism betray intellectual ignorance of the highest order.
From me pointing out the ASSUMPTIONS of nutty professors……………cloaked as FACT……….to you now trying to repeat for the thousandth time….that there is not ‘a single piece of evidence for Jesus of Nazareth………….’ shows WHY other people have completely banned you and your commenting.
Sure, you wear this as a badge of rusted honor thinking you are somehow superior for your display of bible slaying. Ha! I just need remind you of the big mouthed goliath who a few minutes later was headless, by a smaller fella with a larger God. The only God with whom you have to do. Your song is tired doug. It is old. And it is a lie straight from the pit of hell.
Put up of shut up? I’ll put Genesis against all your scientists combined. I’ll put Isaiah against Bill Maher. I’ll put Job againt Nye or DeGrasse. Thry told the truth; your so called scientists? Eh, not so much. I’ll put the gospel accounts against any trial judge on earth. Heck, I’ll even defend the scriptures against any Supreme Court. And win. every time.
So maybe it is time for you to SHUT UP.
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I am perfectly willing to look at the verifiable evidence for the biblical character, Jesus of Nazareth and always have been.
Present away.
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If God’s word itself, nature, life, your conscience, blood, water, and all that is, cannot convince you………if scripture does not present the Lord Jesus Christ to your affections……..if the grace of God does not command your attention……..if the life and times of Saul/Paul is not enough……….
……..how then in God’s good name could ANY evidence convince you? You are plain stubborn ark. It’s that simple.
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Most of the things you generally list about nature etc we simply look at evolution.
Scripture in the main has been shown t be largely spurious, as well you know. But you simply refuse to accept the evidence.
That is your problem.
Stubborn?
Nonsense!
I am one of the most open-minded people you will likely encounter.
So if you wish to demonstrate what you consider to be true then present evidence and we can examine it.
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No ark. I proved clearly in a way that any honest panel of jurors would agree: that the ASSUMPTIONS of evo are only that, assumptions.
And if you are honest, you would agree also.
As to your 1st sentence, your mind is entirely too small. Accidental bangs without purpose………..cannot produce purpose or design. Period.
Maybe you should try tossing up a handful of sand into the air. The result? A 747? Blood? Water? A building? Trees? People?
Thus you can clearly see the stupidity and utter depravity of evolution. We are done for today, as I cannot waste another minute trying to help you.
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Evolution is a fact? And you can prove that?
You made a stink about how the earth acquired its shape. Along with the Theory of Evolution, these “facts” are part of the Atheist version of Genesis. Yet you are the one screaming for proof. I just think these facts are proof of the foolishness of those who say there is no God.
Anyway, I have already defended why I believe the Bible. Repeating my answer won’t change my position. Here are some of the reasons why I believe.
Read that post again and again. Ask question if you must, but expect to provide your own proof too.
Do I insist you believe what I believe? No. What you believe about God is between you and God. Do you insist I what you believe? Yes, but the Bible says people like you would do that. That bigotry is ultimately between you and God too.
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I am not asking for proof – you are the one who stated Put up or Shut up.
So …. this seems to be where we are at.
You do not actually beleive in the theory of evolution and this is why you are hedging your bets.
Your are equivocating regarding planet formation, and as CS refused to allow the link, and I will presume you will not bother to ask or investigate, even though I mentioned it contained the latest scientific data.
Therefore we can presume that no matter what the science says you will cling to the veracity of genesis.
This should inform any reader pretty much where your head is at on this matter.
I have no belief in gods , yours or the god/s of anyone one else.
And you are perfectly entitled to believe whatever you wish.
This is one of the fundamentals of personal freedom.
Much of this is simply untrue as I have pointed out tom you already.
However, if we were to follow the bible strictly, we would be stoning children, adulterous wives and homosexual men and numerous other pieces of utterly ridiculous behaviour contained in the bible.
One of the other fundamental freedoms is to take the consequences of one’s beliefs.
To this end you have no right to insinuate any supernatural faith-based beliefs into the public domain, and . To wit – Creationism and Intelligent design – unless you can provide evidence or their veracity.
Well, can you?
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You cannot defend what you believe. That is implicit in the way you debate. Attack is all you do, and you don’t pay any attention to the evidence you are given. You just attack and demand evidence as if none had been provided. I suppose that is why so many Christians say I was blind, but now I see.
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Nonsense!
You have not produced any verifiable evidence for your claims. This is the ENTIRE point of faith.
I am not attacking you, Tom. As I have pointed out , you are perfectly entitled to your beliefs, and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
It would be beneficial if your beliefs were not so intransigent and mired in superstition and the supernatural, but that’s your choice.
I am simply stating that you are not entitled to believe you can import such faith-based beliefs and consider you have the right to impose them onto the public domain, and primary of these is the education system.
You would certainly not allow anyone to demand that the existence of the Norse gods be treated as fact, or that fairies were real.
And rightly so.
Practically everything you state as true regarding creation etc has been debunked as nonsense.
Where no evidence is currently available – the origin of life, for example – then the term ”I don’t know” is the only honest answer available. TO ALL OF US:
You don’t want to believe in evolution. I have not problem with this.
It puts you and anyone else who adopts this view, including the majority of Christians I’ll add, firmly on the fringe.
That’s is what choice is all about.
Just try to ensure that you afford the same choice as you demand to those who may not (yet) be in a position to exercise independent critical thinking.
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Even as you claim otherwise, you are still attacking (and me personally, of course). Instead of giving anyone any reason to believe what you believe, you preach a gospel of self-righteous anger. Like a Liberal Democrat, you too hide the emptiness of your faith under the cover of assaults upon the beliefs of others, even claiming that only those who believe what you believe have the right to decide what goes into the school curriculum.
To salve your pride in your empty wisdom, would you fill the universe with a philosophy empty of meaning and purpose? Apparently, you would, and I suppose you can already claim success. The universe do appears so empty and lonely. Yet here and there are glittering stars. With billions and billions of points of lights the heavens declare the glory of God, and none but He know what those lights portend. All we know is just a bit about what happens at our little star. Here on the third planet there is life made in the image of God.
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Aaah .. such interesting evocative prose.
Now, if you have got that out of your system – and I hope you have – and you would like to present verifiable evidence for just one of your Christian beliefs then I feel confident we would actually be able to have a genuine adult conversation.
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Regarding scripture ark, you are drop dead boring. Regarding photos, you are very good.
However, the darkroom reveals that you operate your camera through faith……..exposing the unseen…………the invisible becoming visible as it were.
Thanks Mr Kodak for your inspiration.
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From your first comment on the post you linked.
There is so much that is wrong about this silly statement, but I will offer you the opportunity to clarify it.
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Evolution a fact? Ooh ooh let me play.
Yeah, when is the last time you saw an ape tie his shoes, spell kat, juggle a grapefruit, an orange, and a papaya, or build a table with tools from home depot.
As this post demonstrates, atheism is a bastard child of broken minds designed purely for the gullible, who refuse, at any cost to admit, there is One greater than themselves.
Evolution and atheism need each other Nye and Sagan? Dawkins and Darwin? All mental ignoramuses.
Even an ape must be embarrassed at such lack of logic.
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And this is why Creationism or Intelligent(sic) design is not taught in schools.
-The End –
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Here doug, since you play your blind and
stubborn hand every time, in every place, here, from THIS post regarding your heroes, and that which you claim as your own:
“The formation of a planet is a slow process…………”
From the post you are commenting on. As CT asserts correctly, this is purely speculative, and any courtroom with sane minds will agree. Pure assumptive, cannot be tested nor proven.
ALLEGATIONS yes, OPINIONS yes, but FACTS? Please, what are you a monkey’s uncle.
And this is why your hero scientists and lying professors have ZERO credibility.
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If you have no integrity or are even too lazy to read a simple article on cosmology then why on earth should any one expect you will accept fact?
There is, however, irony here in as much as you rail against atheists, stating that they believe things just ”poofed” into existence, yet here you are behaving like a remedial, obstinate child regarding planet formation.
Rather than sucking on the barren teats of Ken Hammism and the rest of his execrable nonsense just find a video from Carl Sagan.
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My ‘railing’ is in proportion to the assumptions that the godless claim as fact. Period. ‘Nutty professors.’
Sagan? Really? His bihyuns and bihyuns of years……….really?
But poof? Hardly. You make yourself entirely too large doug. And of course by so doing, you have by artificial fiat, ruled God OUT of His own creation.
You are only doing battle against yourself, not me or believers. The evidence is there free for the taking, you simply choose to ignore it.
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Ok. No problem.
I am open to be educated.
Demonstrate that there is unequivocal veracity/evidence to your opinion/view
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Veracity? Evidence?
a bulb can produce a flower after being ‘dead,’ in the ground so to speak, lifeless, motionless, and don’t cry bringing that word dormant as an excuse.
that a scented flower such as night blooming jasmine does not speak to the ‘soul’ of the same.
These two examples, are they not ‘proof’ of something greater, something so beautiful and exquisite that the chaos of your ‘accidental creation’ could never account for in a zillion years?
Now then, let’s talk about Genesis…………and God saw that it was very good. Or course it was!
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So, you can’t. Okay.
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Yeah, life is no evidence I suppose. 😉
Unless your parents were dead when they birthed you? Wake up.
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Life is evidence of evolution.
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Life begets life ark. Without Intelligence at the outset, you are left with stupidity as offspring.
Surely you are not admitting to that…………..
You may just want to consider how large God is, Omnipotent even, and how paltry our ignorance is. I have said on many occasions, and it is a fav actually:
Try giving God the courtesy of existing. Rain, fruit, blood, water, cold, heat, leather, bones, coal, gold, love, stars, apes, peacocks, night, day, light, are not happenstance, but are all of One.
God’s word, nature, as well as the conscience , all confirm this.
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By ”outset” you mean your god Yahweh.I presume?
Okay … provide the irrefutable evidence to back this assertion.
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By outset I mean beginning of all things. God is God first and foremost………..long before El Elyon or El Shaddai, or Jehovah revealed Himself to mankind, to a particular race.
God is God over all, and is the undisputed Champion of all worlds. He is the God of all tribes, kindreds, tongues, and nations.
In the beginning, God……….. see how easy?
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Excellent! Now please do as I ask and provide irrefutalb revidence for your assertion.
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Love that ‘faith based belief!’
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Here you go, Tom. Knock yourself out!
How do planets form?
EDIT: No link pong ark. You should know by now, that one link turns into a hundred more. The authors allege “we have a pretty good idea how planets form,” then go on ad infinitum as to this ‘idea,’ where as you know, it is pointless on this blog, especially since I previously demolished the notion of ASSUMPTIONS by nutty professors. Please do not send links.
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😀
No link pong…
When we cannot provide a brief explanation, we probably don’t know what we are talking about.
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@ Tom
Good grief! What an extremely astute remark.
For the record, the link was to a site explaining the formation of planets based on the most up to date scientific data.
As I fully agree with the sentiments expressed in your comment, please be so kind as to explain the grounds upon which you (presumably ) reject evolution?
Thanks.
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Some people couldn’t get a point if it poked them in the butt.
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Talk about hocus pocus mumbo jumbo wally. Takes tons of faith to believe in all that stuff eh, especially when they have zillions of years as a witness.
Geezo.
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The hyenas seem to have worked themselves into a frenzy of hate lately, more so than usual. Must be a moon phase LOL. Preacher Mike paid a visit to my last hand update post to lecture me and my family on how God had nothing to do with anything, then ran off and wrote a post. Geezo is right.
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You make a really good point and…. dare I say it? You also reveal the truth of some actual science. “A little bit of science will make you stupid, but a whole lot will lead you right to God.” Forget who said that, but it’s the truth. One thing actual physicists like to discuss is what happened pre big bang? “Something” cannot just spring forth from “nothing.” Once you have your universe created (which is impossible for us to fully understand since ‘nothingness,’ cannot make stuff) but the Earth must be formed. So allegedly our universe just sprung forth, this immense bag of floating rocks, meteors. One day the meteors decided to come together and make babies….
I jest, but the contemporary theory is exactly that, one day the meteors just started slamming into one another in equal measure from each side, giving birth to a violent earth pounded on from all sides into a perfect sphere. It should be rather obvious that we do not have any photos nor any eyewitness testimony, so this is really all sheer speculation and a leap of faith.
Could be! I’m not necessarily disagreeing. For all I know God could have created and molded a bunch of rocks together to form the Earth,like a Great and Majestic Potter. My point being, the very essence of science is to observe what has ALREADY been created, NOT to dispute Who created it. You can’t do that with “science” because that is not the purpose of “science” and anyone who tries to sell that is selling snake oil and has an agenda.
Thanks for letting me vent, Colorstorm. “Bad apery,” indeed. They should all go sit in the corner and eat a banana.
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UB always welcome to vent in this zip code. But I prefer to call it ‘passion.’
Like I told ark, This is not about ‘shapes,’ per se, but I’m being fair here in demonstrating the process whereby people claim AUTHORITY when all they have is guesswork.
Throw up a pile of sand into the air and presto, out pops blood, water, sinew, marrow, love, fruit, water, meteors, planets…… then there is the maintainance of such, Ha!
Trouble is, we make God too small and ourselves to large. Sounds scriptural eh, to worship and SERVE the creature rather than the Creator.
No one brain on earth could ever outdo the Engineer of the brain. Some knuckleheads with computers will try, but sorry, no can do.
And yes, I appreciate your confederacy, we share a mutual affection for truth and the deep things of God, and are not ashamed to say so, as are many of our excellent friends at WP.
And that quote cited when examined for what it is and for what it tries to uphold, has more holes than coral reef. So we continue to point out such nonsense and expose the theology of godlessness. 😉
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Wow! It’s Mrs. Scientist herself coming to grace us with her presence!!! Does everyone here know you used to present yourself as a SCIENTIST? And that you defended the Kill the Gays bill in Uganda. Your comments are still on VW’s blog, should I get screenshots for everyone here to see just how you justified the murder of LGBT people?
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Actually PA, in your snark, you have unwittingly told the truth about my friend.
She does bring grace to not only my blog, but to most, including the wisped one. It is understandable that you are at a disadvantage in understanding, since a sanctified mind escapes you both in fact, and in candor, but no, not necessary for you to relink a discussion long gone, HERE, in which you, as well as others, drew your own conclusions.
But Mrs. Scientist? Ha, she knows more science if you would but pay attention. You know, whales reproduce whales and not prairie dogs; a grape vine produces grapes and not turnips. You know, the ‘kinds’ of Genesis, pure science, pure truth, verifiable by logic, common sense, and nature, which always agrees with scripture, so yeah, you can never win this argument against her charm and wit.
Besides, God and one are a majority. 😉 But tkx for the visit.
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Yes, she knows science so well she needs to lie about having credentials she does not have. That’s called committing fraud, not charm.
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My guess pink, is there was a whole lot of unfair ‘interpretations’ of the good lady’s points, and a bunch of aspersion cast where none was deserved.
I’ll stand with her any day of the week. And be correct.
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Hey cool, thank you for the back up, Colorstorm. That’s very sweet! Pink is disgruntled because I use the word “biology” on my blog. In truth my dad was a physicist, my mother finished pre-med, my oldest hold a BS, and my second is nearly finished. But a “scientist” is simply, “a person who is studying or has knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.” Some of the best scientists in the world are actually children. They have two of the best things going for them, humility and intellectual curiousity. I haven’t lied about any “credentials.” In fact, I’ve spoken about that issue perhaps 500 times.
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I remember that trainwreck caused by the usual customers, as they accused you of bad conducting……….. 😉
A ‘good’ scientist according to the purveyors of prurience, is one who adheres to evolution, or a ‘Christian’ scientist who has no use for the scriptures.
In other words, there is evidently ‘no such thing as a believing scientist who has no issue at all with the book of Genesis. Ha!!
I am well aware, as are you, of the shameful alliances formed by the godless, so it’s no problem at all to extend the right hand to ya. \o/
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Great post. If you happen to be intelligent and know how to critically think for yourself, it’s hard to fit into this world. You aren’t popular when you speak the truth, but the older you get the harder it is to keep pretending just to fit it. Speaking on “science” I do believe you can believe in science and a creator, in fact you kind of have to. Problem is our education system is actually just indoctrination and if you go through life only believing what some other man believes and wrote into a textbook especially for your indoctrination to the thoughts you are allowed to have, you will really be cheating yourself out of life. Welcome to the Matrix, here’s the blue pill, enjoy. I have always been troubled by the fact so much of what well respected scientists believe are just unproven theories. So if you have a PhD next to your name you can just pontificate wildly and be respected. I know most theories do have a basis but so does the Bible many scoff at.
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The bible is true in theory because it has proved to be in theory. 😉
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